Stranger: hi
You: Hello.
Stranger: you a girl?
You: Why does everybody ask that?
Stranger: because i dont wanna talk to a man
You: Why not?
Stranger: thats gay, no homo
You: Two men talking is gay in your world.
You: So all of your friends are female?
Stranger: i dont have any friends
You: Why not?
Stranger: i dont know... people dont like me i gues
Stranger: guess*
You: Well, what kind of environments could you meet people in?
You: School, work, that sort of thing.
Stranger: i meet people all the time. i just dont befriend any of them
You: Do you act friendly towards them?
Stranger: i guess
You: You guess? You don't know?
Stranger: i mean i guess i act freindly but it doesnt seem to work
You: Well... what do you do to act friendly?
Stranger: "Hi, how are you?"
Stranger: things normal people do
You: Hm.
You: How do they respond, in most cases?
Stranger: lol hi, good
Stranger: it takes more than being friendly to make friends
Stranger: how do you do it?
You: Ah, I don't now how to quantify it... let me think.
You: You need to act happy, for one thing. Nobody likes the sad.
You: Besides that, conversations have to come naturally.
You: Sometimes conversations can seem forced, and nobody likes that.
Stranger: okay...
Stranger: ill be honest i do all of that
You: Okay. Let me think about this.
You: Do you have any kind of physical/mental problems?
You: (if you don't mind me asking)
Stranger: nope
Stranger: im actually pretty fit
Stranger: smarter than most people when i went to school
Stranger: lol, in general knowledge that is
You: Heh. Well... what kinds of things interest you?
Stranger: a lot of things
Stranger: MMA
Stranger: i do brazilian jiu jistu
You: Exotic.
Stranger: music...
Stranger: i mean i have a lot of things i like but no one i know enjoys the samethings i do
Stranger: music, movies, whatever
You: Have you tried expanding your interests?
Stranger: im more expanded than most actually...
You: Well, that doesn't matter if you don't share your interests with anybody, now does it?
Stranger: no if others dont like them
Stranger: not*
You: Well, you can't change what others like, only what you do.
You: If you do martial arts, do you go to a dojo?
Stranger: thats why i stick to myself
You: Do you want friends?
Stranger: i guess
Stranger: btw, dojo?
You: Well, some kind of training area.
You: With a group.
Stranger: oh yeah...
Stranger: how else would you learn lol
You: Well, just checking. You obviously share interests with your fellow martial artists.
You: Do you talk to them?
Stranger: yes... but only about fighting
You: Well.
You: Hm.
You: I don't think that I can teach you how to make friends.
You: Normally people make friends "naturally".
You: You may want to see somebody with better training, like a psychiatrist.
Stranger: honestly i dont think i need any
Stranger: maybe i just need to find a girlfriend
You: So you don't want friends that badly?
Stranger: no not really
You: Hmmmm.
You: Interesting.
You: Well, I'd say that you'll probably have some trouble getting a girlfriend without friends, but...
You: You could find another loner like you.
You: So just the two of you would be together and you wouldn't really need anybody else.
Stranger: why do you say that? whats having friends gotta do with that?
You: Well, the more friends you have, the more people you can interact with.
Stranger: isnt the whole punch of having a relationship with someone is for the 2 of you and not really anyone else
You: Well, yes.
You: Wait a sec.
Stranger: whole point*
You: See, if you have ten friends, and they each have ten other friends, there's 110 people that you're moderately connected to.
You: So it would be easier to find a girlfriend in that.
You: But, see, I mean that the two of you would just be loners with no friends together.
You: Does that sound good to you or no?
Stranger: doesnt bother me if shes a loner or no...
Stranger: just as long as shes not a loser as well lol
Stranger: since most loners are
You: Well, if you have no friends, then you're a loner.
Stranger: yes...
You: Don't worry about it.
You: You don't necesarrily need friends.
Stranger: just my point... its why im in no rush
You: Well, okay then.
You: Do you want a girlfriend?
Stranger: yes
You: Why?
Stranger: i want someone i can be close with
Stranger: friends are just people to spend time with
Stranger: but i find socializing boring
You: Secretely, I think that most people do.
You: I certainly do.
You: But sometimes friendship can be deeper than that.
You: You can get close to friends as well. True friends, not just people that you hang out with.
Stranger: i've tried that before and it didnt work... lol its why im here now i guess
You: Heh.
You: Well...
You: On this system you can get close to somebody easily, as your actions have no consequences.
You: You need friends that won't leave in a huff if you offend them.
Stranger: you said you find socializing boring... why do you do it?
You: Because it wastes time. Because people expect it of me. And because occasionally I meet true friends that way.
You: I used to act the loner, but it got boring.
Stranger: why do you wanna waste time? if anything i dont have enough time to waste
You: Then don't.
Stranger: lol i dont...
You: Wasting time is not a high priority of mine.
You: The other two priorities are the important ones.
Stranger: because who expect it of you?
Stranger: i can understand the last one
You: My friends.
You: People don't like the strange.
You: Society dictates that we socialize. Those who don't, society ostracizes.
Stranger: thats weird... since most socializing is so fucking boring and usually a waste of money
You: Yes, but it works that way nontheless.
You: Socialization allows people to get to know each other and reduces conflict.
Stranger: i dont know about the conflict part
Stranger: since i've seen so many times groups fight one another
You: It reduces conflict to a social squabble. People barter and attack for position in society, rather than actual fighting.
You: Okay, it reduces physical conflict, I misspoke.
Stranger: maybe in a way
Stranger: wtf.. this bitch asked me to stay up till 1 because she wanted to talk to me and now she falls asleep in like 30 mins
You: Huh?
Stranger: this girl i know
Stranger: she said she would be home at 1 and wanted to talk after
You: On the phone or what?
Stranger: no online
You: Oh.
Stranger: we also talk on the phone
You: But you don't call her a friend?
Stranger: i've known her from school
Stranger: and we like each other
Stranger: i guess shes what you call a close friend like you were saying...
You: Well...
You: When you talk to her, don't say "what the fuck, why weren't you up?!"
You: Try to speak nicely.
Stranger: i do...
Stranger: i tell her how much i like her all the time
Stranger: but......
Stranger: she has a fagget boyfriend
You: Oh.
You: Hm.
You: What do you dislike about him?
You: Or do you mean that he's actually gay?
Stranger: the biggest reason is because he has her and i dont
Stranger: and he's a tool
You: Jealousy is an ugly thing.
You: Imagine if she became your girlfriend; how would he feel?
Stranger: why would i care how he feels... honestly i dont even know the guy
You: Because he is a human being.
You: Society is an unspoken deal to treat others nicely in exchange for being treated nicely yourself.
Stranger: but this guy is a tool, lol
You: You don't even know him.
You: He has worries and fears just as you did.
You: Do.
Stranger: im sure he does... and thats nice and all say, but the truth is it doesnt change anything
Stranger: i still want her
You: You have no other options? Nobody else that you know?
You: What about her is so special? Six billion people live on this world, why her?
Stranger: the truth is shes the only one i felt close to
You: You know, I have a similar situation.
You: The only girl that I've ever felt any attraction towards has a boyfriend.
You: I talk to her all the time about anything, much like this.
You: But I've realized that it won't happen.]
You: I prefer her as a friend then as an impossible ideal.
You: *than
Stranger: dont give up...
You: She is happy. I won't ruin that.
You: You should keep her feelings in mind, you know.
Stranger: i mean if she didnt feel about you the same way as you do about her than i would say forget it
You: She used to; no more.
Stranger: i do... this girl always gets into fights with her bf. they almost broke up a bunch of times
Stranger: which gets me angry that they havent already
You: Have you asked her why she doesn't break up with him?
Stranger: she told me she really wants me but shes scared...
You: Scared? Of him?
Stranger: scared of change basically
Stranger: because they been going out for almost 2 years
You: Well, inertia is not a good reason to stay in a relationship by itself.
You: You should ask the boyfriend why he stays with her.
Stranger: i dont wanna talk to the guy actually... i could care less about him
You: You should care. At some point, your friend loved him, and maybe still does. He has some merit.
You: You can't just dismiss people.
Stranger: dont see why not... not like they have a child or something holding them together (lol, great gatsby)
You: Because. Think from his perspective for a moment. Why should he care about you? You're just some guy that wants his girlfriend. He doesn't need to worry about you, he can dismiss your feelings.
You: If you dismiss him then he has every right to dismiss you.
Stranger: he doesnt even know me and if anything he would dismiss me with out a though
You: You dismiss him without a thought.
Stranger: he's always bitching at her when he thinks she flirting with someone
You: Yes, their relationship clearly has problems.
Stranger: she cant text guys or anything
You: He's paranoid. He knows that they have problems.
Stranger: it does... i dont see why she stays
You: Because she is scared of change. That's a powerful fear.
Stranger: yeah...
Stranger: one night she stayed over my house and we watch a movie
Stranger: we cuddled a little
Stranger: later she told me she was so scared...
Stranger: i wish she wasnt might have gone farther
You: What if you had gone farther? Do you honestly think that that would have ended well?
Stranger: yes...
You: Stranger... you should talk to her about this. In a calm way. Make it clear that they have a dysfunctional relationship. Don't press the possibility of your relationship with her.
You: You need more communication.
You: And I still think that you should talk to the guy.
Stranger: lol trust me i do
Stranger: and she knows... its why it gets me so angry
You: Don't get angry. Anger clouds your thinking.
Stranger: if i talk to the guy were probably gonna fight
Stranger: since one, i dont like him, second, he's a tool, and third we both do MMA
You: I don't know what to say to you. You seem really geared towards a fight.
You: Okay... why do you try to proposition girls online, then?
Stranger: like do you mean with her?
You: No.
You: you a girl?
You: Why does everybody ask that?
Stranger: because i dont wanna talk to a man
You: Why not?
Stranger: thats gay, no homo
You: Like that.
Stranger: oh lol... i was just coming on to omegle to act like a dumbass didnt expect this
You: Ah.
You: Why would you want to act like a dumbass to random people?
Stranger: why dont you ask the 95% of people using omegle
You: So, you just want to go along with the majority? Be a dick because they dictate it?
You: Don't follow trends.
Stranger: lol... not a trend
Stranger: i do differen things on omegle for fun
You: Have you ever heard of the GIFT? Normal person + anonymity + audience -> total fuckwad.
You: But you don't need to contribute to that.
You: You can try to act nice.
You: And that applies to real life as well.
Stranger: no audience... self amusement. and i do act nice from time to time on omegle
Stranger: actually i was just on here to kill some time waiting for that girl
You: I thought so.
You: I use this site because I think that anonymity is an opportunity.
You: I now know you better than most people that you've ever met do, and yet I don't even know your first name.
You: You just decided to tell me about all this stuff.
Stranger: yeah...
You: Now, consider something.
Stranger: its good to get feed back sometime
You: Who am I?
Stranger: okay
You: I could be anybody, right?
Stranger: correct
You: I could be somebody that you know, or somebody that you've never met.
Stranger: chances are someone i never met but yes
You: Right... but it's possible that, for example, I'm that guy, your girl's boyfriend.
You: He might use this site. How would you know?
You: You wouldn't.
Stranger: right i wouldnt
You: Would you still want to fight me?
Stranger: i dont wanna fight you... i just want your girlfriend
Stranger: if you fight me over it ill fight back thats all i was saying...
Stranger: lol
You: Well, that's the attitude that leads to this.
You: That attitude caused the cold war.
You: (for example)
You: You need to talk things out.
Stranger: with who? her or him
You: Both, probably.
Stranger: i dont think talking to him is a option... i once drove her to college
Stranger: his brother that goes to the same college saw her with a guy (me) and called him to tell him that we were holding hands
Stranger: i had left before he came
Stranger: but they got into a big fight after
Stranger: i swear we talk we're probably gonna fight. even if i dont try to start one
Stranger: i mean this guy is just a tool
You: Well.
You: You sure that she's not just scared of him?
Stranger: not like that...
You: Have you confronted her? Told her what you think of her boyfriend?
Stranger: and if she ever was she would just have to come to me and he wouldnt hurt her
Stranger: lol yes she knows how i feel
Stranger: which gets me angry because she doesnt do anything about it
Stranger: i know shes probably just nervous and shy and scared but still...
You: Well, you should probably comfort her, then.
You: My personal mantra-thingie: "This, too, shall pass."
You: Everything turns out okay in the end.
Stranger: i try to... i always tell her to not be nervous about anything with me. i actually tell her everything about myself aswell...
Stranger: good quote btw
You: Biblical quote.
You: From Solomon.
Stranger: oh... whenever something is biblical it always goes down in my book lol are you religious?
You: Not Christian, oddly, I just like the quote.
Stranger: oh
You: I think that you will have to confront this guy at some point. When you do, don't fight.
You: Tell him that he needs to move on, I guess?
Stranger: lol if he's still going out with her at this point, he'll probably laugh in my face and be like who the fuck is this guy?
Stranger: i mean he already has her... so far im losing
You: Don't think of it as a game or a fight.
You: It's your life. You can't win or lose.
Stranger: its how i think about everything
You: That attitude will encourage you to win but harming others.
You: And ('nother quote) an eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind.
You: Might not be as appopriate.
You: *appropriate
Stranger: i dont harm anyone... its more of a business man type mind set. my compition cant be better than me
You: Well, I guess that's a bit better, as long as you're not an Enron-type businessman :)
You: In that case, remember that everyone else only looks for their next paycheck, like you.
You: Metaphorically.
You: Or something.
Stranger: yes but some people are taking my paycheck...
Stranger: and that is when i fight
You: Because they need money. Like you.
Stranger: take someone elses money
Stranger: i dont have a lot to give out
You: Nobody does.
Stranger: you have even less if your not social
You: Just remember that even if this guy acts like a tool all the time, he wants "money" just like you do.
You: Business again... corporations usually get farthest.
You: Groups.
You: Lone entrepaneurs (sic) don't get far in most cases.
Stranger: i can agree with you there... but thats what connections are for
Stranger: and im sure he wants money as well but i want whats best for her and i dont think he's best for her
Stranger: i think i can be better
You: I think that you can be too, okay?
You: But if you just ignore his feelings then you're not much better than him.
Stranger: i dont see why not
Stranger: its about her feelings that matter
You: Well, obviously his feelings matter to her.
You: And what matters to her should matter to you.
Stranger: but the truth is that doesnt help me...
Stranger: i want her to be happy, she doesnt seem to happy with him, i'd be more happy with her
Stranger: it seems the right way to go if she dumped him
Stranger: and came with me
You: I don't disagree. Their relationship seems pretty terrible. How did they meet, do you know?
Stranger: no idea how they met actually. they dont go to the same school or anything. they actually live in a different city which her aunt lives in
Stranger: and because of that shes always up there
You: Do you know how long ago they met?
Stranger: almost 2 years ago
Stranger: i know i know long time but i dont care...
Stranger: if you want me to be honest
You: How long have you known her?
And yes, I want you to be honest.
Stranger: well i've actually known her since my freshman year in highschool
Stranger: and now we are freshman in college
You: So four years, yeah?
Stranger: but only this year have we been close
Stranger: before she was just someone i've talked to in school... you know
You: Okay, now that I know your age, keep something else in mind.
You: College relationships don't usually last long.
You: Does the girl have other friends?
Stranger: yes
You: Do you know them?
Stranger: yes
Stranger: most at least
You: You should talk to them about the girl's relationship.
You: If all of you tell her instead of just you, it might sink in deeper.
Stranger: yeah maybe but the truth is i dont talk to people all that about this type of stuff
Stranger: and she doesnt want people to know
You: You should.
Stranger: because shes still dating this guy
You: She doesn't want people to know what?
Stranger: that she likes another guy
You: Well, you don't need to tell them that you like her.
You: Just that you're her friend at that you think that their relationship is unhealthy.
Stranger: i dont blame her really... no reason for people to call her a slut. one of the many good things of being social
Stranger: her friends dont really know this guy either.... since her friend are in a different city
Stranger: all i know of him is what she tells me and if she of all people cant say good things about him he must be a tool
Stranger: just my opinion
You: ...
You: Hm.
You: You know, Stranger, I don't think that I can give you any more advice.
You: I am completely out of my league here.
You: But do what feels right, okay?
You: And try not to hurt anyone, even tools.
Stranger: alright stranger, thanks for the conv and advice
Stranger: good talking to you
You: No problem. You've helped my faith in humanity.
Stranger: in a bad or good way?
Stranger: lol
You: A good way :)
You: One more thing:
Stranger: yes?
You: I think that you should read this article:
http://www.cracked.com/article_14990_what-monkeysphere.html
You: Good article.
You: Well...
You: Bye.
Stranger: bye
Your conversational partner has disconnected.
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